Justice and Piety are two closely related ideas, with different existing beliefs about their relationship. Through logical analysis, Philosophers have deduced the only valid relationship between Justice and Piety to be that Piety is a part of Justice. Some people however refuse to acknowledge this and maintain that Justice and Piety are Coextensive, or that Justice is a part of Piety. This paper will attempt to convince such people of the flaws in their beliefs, and show them that the only viable relationship is that Piety is a part of Justice. In order to effectively analyze and understand the relationship between Piety and Justice, we must first define Piety. In The Euthyphro, several definitions are put forth for Piety, but the most compelling one to me is this. “Speaking freely, however, I can tell you that if a man knows how to say and do things acceptable to the gods in prayer and sacrifice, those things are holy.”(Plato, 17).Euthyphro’s definition works, however I would add a few things to make this definition clearer and more conclusive. Pious things are any prayer and/or action that is pleasing to all gods. Now we must define Justice. The closest Euthyphro came to defining justice in The Euthyphro was when he said it was “ministering to men” (Plato, 14). Following this logic I would define Justice as any action seen as fair, right, or acceptable in the Eyes of men. With this definition we can already see clear differences between the two ideas. With these definitions in mind, let’s look at the idea of Justice and Piety being coextensive. 1st of all we know that what is pious is always accepted as Just. What is acceptable to all gods is never disputed by men as being unjust. No god of any religion would command their followers to commit unjust actions, and still be considered Pious. This shows that Piety is a part of Justice which agrees with the proposed relationship here. However, this relationship also suggests that Justice is simultaneously a part of Piety. This is where this theory on the relationship falls short. The fact of the matter is that not all Just acts are Pious. You might disagree with the possibility of there being an act that is just but not pious, but they exist and they all fit into the definition of being just, but not into the definition of being Pious. An act can be acceptable, and fair in the eyes of men, but this does not make it holy. For an act to be Holy/pious, it should be a form of sacrifice or prayer that is pleasing to or a service to the gods. One example of an act that is Just but not Pious is taxation. It is Just to pay your taxes. Paying taxes is considered fair and right in the eyes of man. It is repaying your government for their services to you. Paying taxes, however, is not holy. It does not service the gods in any way, nor does it please them. They may agree that the action is Just but that does not make it Holy. There are several other examples of such actions. Paying salaries, for example, is just but not holy. You must compensate employees for their work, and not doing so is seen as unjust, and you will be punished under the law. Paying salaries to employees however is not holy. Not paying salaries would however be both unjust and impious.
The same arguments can be made against those that say that Justice is a part of Piety. If…
Justice is making sure the innocent is not wrongly accused and that the guilty are rightly punished for the crime they committed. Euthyphro and Socrates are in king archon’s court which Euthyphro is bewildered that Socrates is there and they begin to have a discussion on what piety is and what makes something pious. Is something pious just if the Gods love it? Euthyphro tells Socrates he is being indicted by Meletus. Indicted is when one is accused of a crime I believe the crime he is being accused…
Euthyphro and Mysticism |
Angela Smoulder |
Philosophy 101-01 |
The definition of division causes a basis of argument in Plato’s “Euthyphro”. While awaiting trial, Euthyphro explains that he has brought his father in front of the Judge with a murder charge. The idea of bring one’s own father to court brings forth room for debate between Socrates and Euthyphro. The main question being what is the definition of piety? The main reason that Socrates asks…
Running Head: Euthyphro 1
PHI208: Ethics and Moral Reasoning
Instructor Craig Thompson
September 30, 2013
Running Head: Euthyphro 2
Euthyphro, is a quest for wisdom and the definition of holiness/piety. The dialogue Euthyphro was written by Socrates' protege Plato during the weeks leading up Socrates' trial in which he was accused of corrupting the youth in Athens. It features Socrates and religious expert…
Plato’s “Euthyphro,” we come across two main characters, Socrates and Euthyphro. Socrates permits us to survey the ways in which decisions are formed for what purpose. Socrates and Euthyphro are discussing Euthyphro and why he is bringing his father to court to prosecute him for murder. They were talking about if the murder was just or unjust. Euthyphro is prosecuting his father, because he feels like it is pious to do so; however Socrates challenges us both the reader and Euthyphro to examine…
“Euthyphro” By Plato
The telling of this conversation between Socrates and Euthyphro by Plato is one where Plato was the student of Socrates at one time. Plato identifies Socrates initially seeking instruction from Euthyphro since he’s in jail for impiety and Socrates discovers that Euthyphro is there to put his father away for murder in his own case. Socrates flatters him by telling him that he must be an expert of all religious things. Socrates…
Plato’s dialog, Euthyphro, gives an account of one of Socrates many encounters with someone who claims to be wise. Always seeking to increase his own knowledge, Socrates attempts to determine if the man is truly wise and if there is anything that he is able to learn from him. He does this by using the method of refutation, which allows the interlocutor to refute themselves using their own statements and beliefs.
The dialog begins with Socrates going to the court of Athens to face charges…
up with man of religion, Euthyphro, outside of King Archon’s court. Euthyphro is described as a religious mystic due to the fact that he has made prophecies that came true after many laughed at him when he described these ideas to others. Euthyphro intends to charge his own father with murder, where the possible outcome could be death. Euthyphro uses the examples of doing what the gods’ do- what Zeus did to Cronos, and Cronos to Uranus. Socrates feels that Euthyphro is very intelligent, and…
There is no exact definition of piety in Euthyphro. Socrates begins a conversation with Euthyphro, an “expert” in religion, in hope of seeking a definition of piety before an indictment. Euthyphro gives Socrates four definitions of piety, but none seem to satisfy Socrates, leaving the question unanswered and without a good definition.
As the dialogue begins, Euthyphro is about to prosecute his father for murdering a murderer. On the other hand Socrates is also about to be prosecuted…
In this article ‘Euthyphro’, there are two main characters: Socrates and Euthyphro, discussing and arguing about ‘what is the pious and the impious.’ Because the man indicted Socrates for being impiety, Socrates wanted to find out what exactly are pious and impious from smart young man Euthyphro. So they start talking…
First, Euthyphro says that the pious is prosecuting someone who is guilty of wrongdoing, either of murder or temple robbery or anything else of the sort, whether it happens to be…
Analysis of Euthyphro
October 15, 2012
Analysis of Euthyphro
Socrates was put to death in Athens for subverting the youth of the city. He was indicted by Meletus and awaiting his trail on the porch of the King of Archon when he met Euthyphro. It was at this point he engaged in a debate about piety. In this paper, I will examine that debate and present my own conclusion about its purpose as well as my own definition of piety.